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The presenter says that in ADDITION to believing in Jesus says, “All your strength must be applied to serving God”
If this is required to be saved … then no one can be saved … because who truly and fully does this!?! No mere man has, can, or ever will. But Jesus did! Therefore, the only way to be saved is to have HIS perfect righteousness applied to our account BY FAITH ALONE apart from any works (such as the works — the extreme works — that this presenter here says are required. No way. He is wrong. John says he wrote his gospel so that his Readers could find out how to have eternal life (c.f. John 20:31) and he over and over (@ 99 X !!!) says “believe” and NEVER SAYS ANYTHING ELSE IS REQUIRED. Did he fail in his stated goal to show us how we could have have eternal life? No way! But if this presenter is correct more than believing in Jesus is required — that it is faith + repentance, etc. — then John failed! But John did not fail! They can not both be correct. Go with John! Believe! — only believe to have eternal life!
Then repent, obey, etc. to be sanctified/to grow as a Christian and to enjoy close FELLOWSHIP with God. But ONLY BELIEVE for eternal life. John says so. For more info … FaithAlone.org !!! 🙂
I understand what you are saying. But I think you are only looking at one part of the scenario. Jesus tied our obedience to salvation many times. He never said obey so that you can be saved. But he did say, be saved and obey. So in a sense you are twisting his intent when you make these statements. If salvation is not a life changing experience, then it isn’t real salvation. Read these verses, and also study the book of James and you will understand better what this post is trying to say.
Joh_8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
Joh_14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh_15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.
Joh_15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
Act_2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act_3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
Act_26:20 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
Col_1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;
1Th_3:8 For now we live, if ye stand fast in the Lord.
2Pe_1:8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2Pe_1:10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1Jn 2:17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
1Jn 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
AMAZING… People, we plan for vacations, we plan what we will eat or what we will wear but how many people plan for eternity?? The biggest decision a person will ever make but most are not ready….
Amen! You have to believe in God with all of our heart, mind, soul and strength. You must also Repent of your sins to be born again. Jesus says if you are not born again we will not inherite the kingdom of God.
John 3.3 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Saved is kind of a loaded word, but i know that the Bible speaks truth. In James we are told by an Apostle of Christ that belief and faith is not all, but that in addition to those two rock solid points, good works are even more important. James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. Also we remember that the Spirit us willing, but the flesh is weak. The flesh is extremely difficult to control(Matthew 26:41). If we can master our physical body, the faith and hope will no doubt bring us all the way to justice, grace, and eternal life. With a loving Heavenly Father and His son, even Jesus Christ. After all, greater live hath no man than this, that He layeth down His life for His friends -John 15:13. By the way, He does LIVE.
Good works will NEVER be more important than faith and justification. Good works follow as fruits of faith, not as something which God requires in order to be saved. Works are important for our fellow man, but not to God in order to be saved. Works come as a result of already being saved. As the great Martin Luther (not King) once said, “Man is saved by faith alone, but faith is never alone.” Never think that your works are somehow earning you points with God; they are NOT. Christ earned all your points for you–trust in that above all else!
I think you’re right on this, but Traver makes some good points as well. What we see so often in today’s world is people who use your reasoning to excuse living in sin. I feel that James was picking up on this. The person who doesn’t live in obedience has no right to claim salvation because if was saved by grace, then that grace would make him God’s workmanship. Of course this doesn’t necessarily take place all overnight, but I think that it will be evident in the person who has repented of his sins and given his heart to Christ.
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